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Hanayo Asa - Nyaaaa~ -

Jinsei wa, one-two-panchi... ♪ - 20:45, July 16, 2013 (UTC)
WARNING ! The following goes with the assumption that the Rebuild continuity is a COMPLETELY separate continuity of the NGE/EoE one, i.e. everything known in the NGE/EoE continuity, including, in that case, the naming conventions for the Evangelions doesn't apply here.


Hello everyone ! As some of you may have seen, I recently began to make proper articles for the Rebuild versions of the Evangelions. Now, I wanted to ask everyone..

What name policy are we gonna have for those ?

That could be a dumb question at first sight. I also think I already talked about this with DE in the past. That pretty much means that I apologize in advance (especially to you, DE =P) for the fact that I can be really boring (not to say more harsh words here) when it comes to technical things like the ones which I'll explain in a minute, but I really want to make this Wiki the best and most precise Evangelion database possible. >_<

ANYWAY, back to the topic, my main argument for asking this question is the fact that the Rebuild Evangelions, both the "old" and the new designs I mean, are NEVER referred as "Evangelion Unit-XX" in official Rebuild materials (booklets, goodies, etc..) to my knowledge. This is in English only, of course. Excluding the "Mark.XX" series and Evangelion 13 from that, they're more referred as "Evangelion-XX" ("Evangelion-01" or "Evangelion-05", for example), Evangelion "Model Specification"-XX ("Evangelion Test Type-01" or "Evangelion Provisional Unit-05", for example) or simply "Eva-XX" ("Eva-01" or "Eva-05", for example).

That said, I have three propositions to make for the naming policy for the Rebuild continuity-Evangelions :

1) We stay with the current naming system and put "(Rebuild)" after the name of the corresponding (old) Evangelion. That means :
  • Evangelion Unit-01 (Rebuild)
  • Evangelion Unit-00 (Rebuild)
  • Evangelion Unit-02 (Rebuild)
  • Evangelion Unit-03 (Rebuild)
  • Evangelion Unit-04 (Rebuild)
  • Evangelion Provisional Unit-05
  • Evangelion Unit-08 (note : maybe change to "(Rebuild)" here too, as the "old" Unit-08 is actually a MPE)
  • Evangelion Mark.04
  • Evangelion Mark.06
  • Evangelion Mark.09
  • Evangelion 13
2) We change to something with the full names for the Rebuild versions. That would includes both the old and new designs. That means :
  • Evangelion Test Type-01
  • Evangelion Proto Type-00
  • Evangelion Production Model-02
  • Evangelion Production Model-03
  • Evangelion Next Gen Testbed-04
  • Evangelion Provisional Unit-05
  • Evangelion Production Model Custom Type-08
  • Evangelion Mark.04
  • Evangelion Mark.06
  • Evangelion Mark.09
  • Evangelion 13
3) We change to the "kinda-shorten-Rebuild-equivalent-of-the-Evangelion-Unit-XX-thingy" that is the "Evangelion-XX" naming system. That means :
  • Evangelion-01
  • Evangelion-00
  • Evangelion-02
  • Evangelion-03
  • Evangelion-04
  • Evangelion-05
  • Evangelion-08
  • Evangelion Mark.04
  • Evangelion Mark.06
  • Evangelion Mark.09
  • Evangelion 13

(of course, there would be a lot of disambiguation pages to make for each propositions; I won't explain that right now as it would be really REALLY long and this isn't the right place nor the right time to do it, I think)

In my opinion (but then again, that's just me, the guy who wants to be the most boringly precise guy XD), the second proposition is the best. Why ? Well, the Evangelion franchise is about philosophical stuff, okay. But the mecha aspect of the show isn't something we should bypass. Rebuild is a bit more "realistic" looking compared to NGE/EoE (to a lesser extent, it's more or like ANIMA actually), cf. Eva-05 bootup sequence with the memory stuff for example, so why not going with the full designation of the Rebuild Evas ? They're also labelled like that on the official profiles of the booklets and, taking into account the fact that the Wiki is an encyclopedia, I think we should go with the full names, should we have them (which is the case for the Rebuild stuff).

Now, for the other propositions..

The first is, in my opinion, the worst. It makes the whole thing kinda schizophrenic. It uses the "Evangelion Unit-XX" naming system for every Evas but uses the "Evangelion Model Specification-XX" for Eva-05. Why ?

The third is the second best choice for me. It's kinda sufficient enough to differentiate them from their NGE/EoE counterparts and is also similar to the "Evangelion Unit-XX" naming system.

So now, I'd like your opinions and/or your advices about that. Which naming systems is the best, etc..

Thank you for reading this big block of text (and also my possibly bad grammar in the process !).


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The Maverick013 - Is Out of Control-

TALK - The Beast is (not) shouting love this time-18:37, July 17, 2013 (UTC)Zeruel
Evangelion Unit 02 (Beast Mode)I think i can see your point. However i'm not sure if making the names more complicated would actually help. DE shall have the last word though, and if i were to choose one, i think i would support the second option. If we are going to make it complex, then at least we should be as precise as possible ! :)


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Hanayo Asa - Nyaaaa~ -

Jinsei wa, one-two-panchi... ♪ - 19:23, July 17, 2013 (UTC)
Making them more complicated would not help, I agree completely on that point.

Therefore, there would be, let's say for Eva-01 :

  • A NGE/EoE page named "Evangelion Unit-01"
  • A Rebuild page named "Evangelion Test Type-01", with redirect pages like "Evangelion-01" and maybe "Eva-01" (as this term is used for both the NGE and Rebuild versions, I'm not too sure..).
  • One page would link to its counterpart, via the template "For" (like Provisional Unit-05, right now).
  • A disambiguation page named "Evangelion Unit-01 (disambiguation)".

With that system, I honestly don't think it would get more complicated that it already is with Unit-05/Provisional Unit-05 and Unit-08/Production Model Custom Type-08 cases right now (I don't think they cause that many problems, don't they ?)

The "Test Type", "Custom Type", "Production Type", etc, monikers are not ac tual part of the Evangelio designation. Rather, they are precisely the unit's stand in the eva series. When you create something from which you'll base an entire series on, you first develop a prototype (Unit-00). Then, when you got what you want, you start production models (Unit-02, Unit-03, and Unit-04). Test or experimental models are made in order to try a new function or mechanism (Unit-01), while you only start mass production when the demand for units is high (MP). that's why I am against the use of the production role being included in the article names: They are not really the way the evangelions are referred. The NGE units were ALSO refered by the monikers of prototype, test type, production model, etc, so they would need to be changed, too. And lastly, were we only to change Rebuild units names, people would think they are entirely different units, rather than renditions of old ones.

TL;DR We should go with the first idea that HPZ mentioned. --Dark-EnigmaXIII-(Talk)

22:09, July 17, 2013 (UTC)


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Hanayo Asa - Nyaaaa~ -

Jinsei wa, one-two-panchi... ♪ - 19:14, July 19, 2013 (UTC)
Roger that, DE ! Two questions though :
  • Should we changed Unit-08 to "Evangelion Unit-08 (Rebuild)" because the actual Unit-08 already exists in the NGE continuity ?
  • Could the full name (it's said to be the "formal name" on the Japanese Wikipedia pages of the Evas), both Japanese and English be included in the profile section of the article ?

Also, for information, the article I'm focused on right now is Eva-04's, because it will be the shortest to make and therefore if something is wrong with the sections, etc.. it will be much easier to deal with the eventual text modifications that will have to be done than if it was Eva-01's article, for example.

One final thing : I'd like to add is a bit of a mea culpa. When I said that the first proposition was "schizophrenic", I was wrong. I completely forgot the "Kasetsu Gogōki" Japanese designation (instead of simply "Gogōki") for Provisional Unit-05, therefore it makes sense with the other ones. That was just to clarify that. ;-)

EDIT 15:51, July 20, 2013 (UTC): There we go for Eva-04 !

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