Talk:Boy

About article name
We currently have two pages for this little fella, Ryoji Kaji (Son) and this one. What name is the most appropriate? ~ The Maverick  013  06:29, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * For the life of me, I can't seem to find a name that feels satisfying, for this page. "Son" feels too spoilery but somewhat right and "Junior", while still true, feels too "meh", I guess? I feel like I'd take the "Son" one but it's so spoilery that it's not one I would use immediately. I'm somewhat back, BTW. Hi. HPZ - O.N.E. (talk) 20:11, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Hello, HPZ! Yes, I think you have a a good point. I made Junior, so yeah I prefer Junior, but I'm not married to it. I think it just sounds more proper and encyclopedic, I guess. FWIW at Evageeks we went with just Junior. No idea if the Japanese have already set a standard, though. FelipeFritschF (talk) 21:16, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * Oh and hey, I'm wondering if now that the Rebuilds are finished we should merge Shikinami into the Sohryu page. Apparently the Sohryu page is barely read at all. The other character pages are all merged, too, and I what's happening is that readers will just google "Asuka", and get the Sohryu page, but not Shikinami, even if they are looking for information on what happened in the Rebuilds. FelipeFritschF (talk) 21:18, 12 March 2021 (UTC)

Wrong. Sohryu and Shikinami are different entities, to fuse them is to go against readability (that is already cluttered) of some pages. Now is the time to separate the pages of characters just like the Evas were, since those are different enough to warrant such. Just like there is still only one Ayanami page for all anime counterparts, even when official sources for them already differentiate (Rei Ayanami and Rei Ayanami (Tentative Name)).


 * That way people won't even be able to find info on Shinji, the main character, because so few people read the Rebuild-specific articles. We don't have a separate article for their manga versions either, and neither should we. Shikinami article definitely can be cut down a little to better fit into Sohryu's, of course, as a considerable part of it is redundant. But this is a fan wiki, as long as it flows (and it does) we don't need to reduce things too much by any notability standards. No fan minds. FelipeFritschF (talk) 23:14, 12 March 2021 (UTC)


 * About R.Kaji: Welcome back HPZ. I favor "Ryoji Kaji Junior" simply because it reduces the possibility of spoilers. Or maybe we should name it R. Kaji?
 * About Asuka: We were to separate both continuities a long time ago but as you guys can see, we never actually finished doing it. And yes, Souryu and Shikinami are two different entities as far as I know. If someone is worried about clarity, we can always make a template for "Did you mean Asuka Shikinai Langley, her Rebuild counterpart?" or something like that. Also, to discuss this, use Asuka's talk page please. ~ The Maverick  013  02:08, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

I separated the angels page between NGE + EoE and the movies, I will create eventually the Rebuild and ANIMA pages for each character and links them in the movies/series parts. The system used by the french wikia is really good, linking it all in the page, so it is easier to use and find each page. There is also the matter of the categories, because as the way it is now, for searching Rebuild content, you can't find main characters since it isn't added, but when the pages are separated, it will be possible to find easier by using categories to each series.

As for the name of the page, how about Ryoji Kaji (II)?


 * I don't know TBH. I feel that just ends up inflating things for no reason. For 70% of material two or three paragraphs mention all relevant differences for the Rebuilds. Shikinami is the only one that has a separate page, because of her name. I think it's a lot of work that can be better used elsewhere, and it's more work for the reader as well. Sadamoto's manga is more significant than ANIMA, so why should there be a specific page for the characters' ANIMA iterations?FelipeFritschF (talk) 02:54, 13 March 2021 (UTC)


 * And unless he's specifically referred to as "II" I think we best avoid it. I should mention the Japanese Wikipedia is just referring to him as "(boy)" literally "shounen". I'm not sure if he's officially referred as any of those 4 options in the Japanese materials yet though that should be clarified soon. Either way of course we don't necessarily need to follow that same terminology if it feels strange in English.FelipeFritschF (talk) 03:00, 13 March 2021 (UTC)


 * The only Japanese official source I saw (that would be the booklet given to people in theaters) had him named "Ryoji Kaji" and that's it. I kinda like the "Boy" one used by the Japanese Wikipedia. It keeps the meaning of what he is that differenciate him from the first Ryoji Kaji, while not spoiling the relationship the two have ("Son" is kinda in your face and "Junior", while a bit more subtle, kinda says it is his son). HPZ - O.N.E. (talk) 12:39, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Isn't that going to far in the opposite direction? How would people find the article? Then again, I guess we can rename it later. ~ The Maverick  013  00:52, 14 March 2021 (UTC)


 * I like the sound of Junior, but HPZ has a good point. I guess we should go with "Boy". FelipeFritschF (talk) 02:14, 14 March 2021 (UTC)