Talk:UNAF Close Air Support VTOL Aircraft YAGR-3B

Not Rebuild-exclusive
The YAGR-3B did not debut in Evangelion 1.0. It in fact dates all the way back to the original NGE anime and manga adaptation; Evangelion 1.0 simply has the distinction of being the first work in the franchise that gives this craft a formal designation. MarqFJA (talk) 14:32, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Did you compare the designs to affirm this? Even if it wasn't named before, if the designs are different, it should be treated as it was. The same goes for the weapons that in NGE were named in a simple manner and in the movies were given different designations/names. The different treatment between pages should be separated even if the designs appear to the similar. Later I will look into it more clearly to see if the designs are different. Lemostr00 (talk)


 * Yes. The designs only have minor superficial differences, just like Evangelions 01 through 03 are practically identical across continuities but for a scant few cosmetic deviations (the Evangelions as a whole have only one article that covers all their depictions across multiple continuities). You only need to watch the first few minutes of Episode 1 to confirm this. (Also, you forgot to sign your message; I had to manually construct the signature just to ensure anyone reading this doesn't get confused by who said what.) MarqFJA (talk) 20:27, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

If yourself claim that the designs are different (no matter how minor it is), then I will revert the page to be rebuild centric as it was before. Doesn't matter if the differences are minor or not, the designs are created and used in different series with different intents. If you want to create another page for the VTOL aircraft, you are free to do it (it will be harder since the NGE had barely any technical information be it in weapons, evangelions and so on unlike the rebuild ones) Lemostr00 (talk)


 * By that logic you'd have to split the Evangelions article as well, since their differences between the relevant continuities are just as minor as the ones for the UN VTOL's depictions in the same continuities are. And when I say minor, I mean that you couldn't even tell that the differences exist and may even simply chalk it up to the higher quality of the drawing techniques/tools used for the Rebuild movies unless you were deliberately comparing the designs (e.g. by looking at each continuity's depiction of the Sachiel battle, where many shots had been pretty much replicated). MarqFJA (talk) 21:18, 2 September 2021 (UTC)

Yes we would have to split the pages. All individual pages for each evangelion are already separated (Except mark.04 that there is a need to split between 3 different ones). The thing about this specific page is that is a generic page for the evangelion term, and now that so far the movies are complete, we can work to separate between the anime and the movies. The problem is that because it is a generic definition, it also contains evangelions from other works like evangelion anima and games. And yeah, the "I mean that you couldn't even tell that the differences exist and may even simply chalk it up to the higher quality of the drawing techniques/tools used for the Rebuild movies unless you were deliberately comparing the designs" is a problem when we don't have the CRCs, but now that all movies are complete, eventually it will be released and we will able to not just compare, but use the information in it to separate and clean some faulty articles (weapons for example, we don't have the official names for the ones in 3.0 and 3.0 + 1.0, but we do have for 1.0 and 2.0 (that are named differently from the NGE ones, which only gets a simple name)).

The work to differentiate the pages is already in progress, with evangelions, characters and other terms, but there is still need to work on other articles that gets less attention (the evangelion one was an example that wasn't well maintained). If you want to help to separate less used articles, the best it will be. Lemostr00 (talk)